Monday, March 03, 2014

Asking For A Spanking

I feel something close to my heart right now, something I want to share... but it's more advice than life... and that is something I usually try to avoid.  Or maybe I give advice on here and don't know it?  If I do, please let me know so I can work on stopping that, I am so not a know it all, there is so much I DON'T know.  So much I still have to learn, so much I have yet to explore or even begin to scratch the surface on.

But I have noticed some women saying they can't ask their husbands for a spanking because it would make them in control, and not their husbands.  If it is okay with you... I would like to share why asking for a spanking in our marriage actually means the Duke is in control.  I just hate to think some of you are out there, hurting, wishing you could ask, but holding out until your husbands notice, all the while, feeling more and more miserable inside, knowing a spanking could set everything to right.

First of all, I have been where you are, sitting in my room, or wherever you are, needing that spanking, feeling the angst building, the breathing quicken, the heart pounding.  Why doesn't he notice!  What isn't he helping me!  Maybe you guys are better at it than I was, here I was, hiding in another area of the house, expecting him to know I needed him, AND NOW.  LOL yes, I have never claimed to be brilliant. ;)

So then I'd go to where he was in the house, but he would be busy working on something.  When he would notice me, he's smile and say hi.  I'd plaster on a smile to smile back.  Yeah, great, EsMay, what a way to convey your need.  I kept waiting for him to notice, but he didn't.

So I had to sit down and really think about this.  I needed a spanking, I knew I needed one, but the Duke wasn't cluing in.  Was he doing this to be mean?  Was he trying to ignore me?  Was he doing all he could to avoid spanking me because it was too much of an inconvenience to him?  No to every single one of those.  He's a guy, and sorry men, but sometimes you don't always notice, what we women would call obvious, signs of distress. :) 

I had to realize I needed to ask what I wanted for, but I felt as many of you do, that that would be me topping from the bottom.  But I learned I was so very wrong.

When I go to the Duke, and admit that I'm in a bad place, I'm obeying my rule to always be honest with him.  When I tell him I'm spiralling out of control, and tell him I need his help, I'm humbling myself, and saying I can't do all this on my own, and need him to step in.  When I admit that it's the spanking that I need, and flat out ask for it, I'm giving myself to him, putting myself in his hands, and saying that I need his guidance, and asking him to step in for me, in a very respectful way.

Not one of those is me topping from the bottom.  It's hard to ask, especially at first.  My heart would land in my throat, making it near impossible to swallow.  What if he said no?  What if he laughed at me?  What if he told me to grow up and deal with my problems myself?  What if he just didn't have the time, or energy?

Well, none of those happened.  I am second only to God in the Duke's eyes.  He wants to help me.  He wants to be there for me.  He wants to be the one that I can count on to set things right in my world.  But, he isn't a mind reader.  And I have to be okay with that.  But I'll tell you something I didn't think would happen in all of this.  The more I admit what I'm feeling to the Duke, the more I ask for help when I need it, the more the Duke is actually starting to read my body language in a way he never could before, because now I'm showing him what each look means by telling him.

I don't know if this would work for you in your marriage, but breaking down that wall, and just admitting when I do need help, whether it's a spanking, or something else, does not put me in charge.  It actually helps me submit to his taking over the situation, because the second I ask for help, I am not longer in control.

{{{hugs}}}  I hope I did not offend anyone out there, and like everything else in DD, this may or may not help you, but just in case it will, I really felt I should share.  You women are so amazing, and I just hate to think of you hurt, needing his care and attention, and feeling you can't ask.  {{{hugs}}} EsMay

- The Duke's Deductions:

You know, EsMay, I am not sure there is a lot to add to this. It's true I can be dense at times, maybe it's because I'm a man, I don't know. I often find myself wondering what you are a thinking, if you are happy or sad or angry, and if any of those feelings are because of something I have done, or not done, or having nothing to do with me at that moment. Of course, the easy thing about the week of spanking we wrote about before is that I didn't have to wonder if it was appropriate to spank you or not, I KNEW it was appropriate to spank you each day. I guess I have a worry at times about whether or not you will get upset at me for wanting to spank you, or think I am doing "HoH" wrong by wanting to spank you at the wrong time. I guess I want to feel as if I am always making the right decisions, but that may lead to just deciding to do nothing a lot of the times if I try to keep that attitude. I guess I need to be willing to make mistakes if it means I am stepping out in a leadership role in our marriage. People have to understand though that it is very hard for me to attempt to do something if I don't feel very confident beforehand that it is the right decision to make. This is true of me in all aspects of life, but in this relationship dynamic, I feel it becomes more important because it affects EsMay. My decisions do not just affect me anymore, but affect my wife as well. It is a sobering thought, but nobody ever said life was easy. But yeah, it would probably really help a lot of these DD marriages if the wife were to ask the husband at times when she really needs a spanking. It would save a lot of heartache, I agree.

Esmay again - wow, and I guess that too shows how hard it is for our men to know if they should always spank us or not, and all the uncertainty there can be in trying to decide what is best.  I knew he used to feel this way, did not know he still did.  Going to go have a heart to heart with the Duke now to let him know he doesn't have to worry so much, and that I love him, mistakes and all, and that I have faith him in being able to do this, because he has grown so much into a man that is happier now... and I want to be there for him.  Night all.  :)

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  1. Goodness EsMay... This so touched my heart and my spirit to the very core. You could not have stated the issue and the solutions any clearer. It has moved me to tears in a good way. I think because while we have been spanking for a variety of reasons for many years now, we have actually only been working through the dynamics of this lifestyle for a few months. I think that perhaps one of our issues is we really never held a discussion on the issue, while I have read enough for both of us and let hubby read the things I feel speak to me, I continue to struggle with actually holding a conversation. Then again, more often than not, surprisingly he gets the issue. I am so tired of trying to be in control, I just want to let it all go. Still... there is the part in my heart that tells me with everything he has to carry, he surely doesn't need me to add to the pressure. I want clarity, I need direction, I need for him to correct me, I want for him to help me be the woman I need to be for him. I need him to understand there actually is a purpose behind this lifestyle that will benefit us both.I just need to find a way to tell him so that it doesn't come across as nagging him. My heart is right on the edge, I know this is the right direction. There must be a lesson I am to learn from this. Just wish it was not so painful. I appreciate that Duke is now offering his input. It is valuable in trying to understand things from a guy's perspective. Thanks so much to you both for sharing your journey so that others can benefit.

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    1. Oh Catherine, I had no idea it would touch anyone so much. {{{hugs}}} I totally understand the being exhausted with being in control, that is one reason I was dying in my marriage before we found DD. I think it's great, that even though at times you can't find the words, your husband still gets the jist of what you are trying to say. Sometimes, when I'm afraid something will come out one way or another, but not as I intend, I tell the Duke that before we talk. So I would tell him I have somthing that will sound like nagging, but it isn't, but I'm not sure how else to put the words, and need him to see the reasons, and now how I'm saying it... not sure if that would help you out, but I find sometimes I really can't find another way to say it, it might just be the stress from, trying, but letting him know that is not my intent to nag, helps. :) I am sorry you are finding all of this so painful, I know I did in the beginning too. {{{hugs}}} If I can help in anyway, I'm here. {{{hugs}}}

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  2. Excellent post EsMay. For me, it's not so much a concern that I may be topping from the bottom, but the fight within myself that makes it difficult to ask. I'm very independent and it's hard for me to admit I need help, much less ask for it. And then when I am finally ready to admit I need help, I get shy about it (which is funny because I'll talk about anything else with Steve without a second thought).

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    1. Well, it is something we grew up not expecting. We never had those mother daughter talks on how to go to our husbands for spankings. ;) Heck, most of didn't even have those talks with our mothers on how to go to our husbands and ask for sex. So we really are all just learning this as we go. The great thing is, from everything you have said about Steve, he's there for you, and I believe from what you write, that he feels honoured when you do ask for his help. :) {{{hugs}}}

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  3. Hey Es May...first off...we should all be giving advice because we learn from one another. Oh and I'll tell ya right now...any blogger that claimed to know it all, I wouldn't be visiting because they are either a saint or a liar...can't live up to one and can't stand the other. LOL

    Very good advice here...there is absolutely nothing wrong with letting your partner know that you are in a bad place and/or having issues and/or need your bum warmed. That is not topping from the bottom...at least in my opinion. When I hear topping from the bottom, I think of the spankee telling the spanker what implement to use, what position will be used, how hard to spank, when to start, when to stop, what to say, etc. Saying I need and/or I feel is simply giving your partner much needed information.

    Ya know Duke...there were many times with my children that I wanted to feel that I always made the right decisions...and...I didn't! Because I'm human but I always tried to be better next time. That's all God and Es May ask of you and you give that in Spades. I see you growing into your role and in confidence...can't wait to see where you'll be in this journey next year. ;)

    Hugs and Blessings...
    Cat

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    1. Thank you, Cat. I was so worried about this post, and then once it was up, kept wondering if I should pull it. Thank you for your encouragement. And, I'm definitely no saint, and hopefully am never, ever a liar. Honesty is so very important to me, maybe more than anything else in a relationship/friendship. And Cat, thank you for your encouraging words to the Duke. He really is doing a lot better than he realizes. There are many times now he'll say I need a spanking, and if he isn't sure, he flat out asks if I need one. It is then up to me to answer him truthfully, and would be my fault if I didn't, not his for not guessing right or just assuming. {{{hugs}}}

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    2. Thank you for the encouragement Cat. It means a lot to me.

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  4. EsMay & Duke,
    Loved this post, I myself haven't been able to ask Lee for a sp******. I to struggle with this, not so much about the topping from the bottom, just get embarrassed still, and I still like to sometimes appear I can handle anything, even though we know I cannot. Maybe one day I will be able to, It makes perfect sense to me with what you both have said, has kinda made me think a little more on maybe I should ask sometimes, O but not tonight!
    hugs
    honey

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    1. honey, I love that spanking is a four letter word to you. ;) Or maybe a dirty word? ;) I guess I really should ask you that sometime. :) Asking for a spanking is hard, and embarrassing, and humbling. It was one very hard lesson for me to learn, and the first few times I did it, heck, even to this day at times, I would stumble over my words, and can NEVER seem to look the Duke in the eye when I do ask. Your husband seems like a wonderful man from the one time I got to talk to him in chat, and something tells me he would love to spank you at any time. ;) I really loved seeing you two interact together, it was great. :) {{{hugs}}}

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  5. Hey you guys :)

    Ok first of, you are such an insightful person Esmay, always kind and thoughtful and your advise is lovely to have, don't ever doubt yourself on that. Giving advise and preaching to others are two very different things.

    Ok I don't have much time so I have to cut it short, once Balu told me maybe I should have a traffic light system on my forehead lol he always says he's not a mind reader and as much as he likes to think he can read me and my moods there are times where he's blissfully ignorant to what's going on in that mind of mine or how he should deal with it. Neither of us thinks it's taking control to ask for a spanking, it's just sharing a need, the same as going to him and asking him if he can help me with the kids, or the washing or pick up some milk on the way. Also as the Duke said sometimes he also has an internal dispute with himself, whether spanking at that moment is the right thing or not, so he would appreciate a little help I. That department.

    Having said that, I find it hard to ask and have very rarely asked for one, but the times that I have asked he's been more than willing to oblige and meet my needs.

    My advise for what it's worth is, we should look past the control issue in this department and see it as sharing a need and asking for help, taking control in my eyes looks a bit different, but that's not my place to share now.

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts and hugs to both of you x

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    1. OH, traffic lights are a great idea! Red for - DON'T YOU DARE! and green for - YEP, I NEED IT NOW! lol. :) Or maybe even like a cross walk sign, instead of Walk and Don't Walk, it could be Spank, or Don't Spank. hehehe. Balu is genius. :) {{{hugs}}}

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  6. A great post, and i am willing to bet it helps many out there. I have finally understood that asking is not demanding, it is opening myself up and giving needed information. It took a long time for me to get there.....but it is so true.
    Thanks for posting this.
    hugs abby

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    1. Thank you, abby, it really is just giving needed information. What a blessing it was to us when I was able to realize that. :) I am with you, it took time, but we got there, and that is what matters. :) {{{hugs}}}

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  7. What a timely post. I am really struggling with this, especially right now as I am tired, and I am grieving and I am not myself. I hate it when I find him looking at me like he doesn't know exactly what to do with me. Both perspectives were a good thing.

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    1. Oh, Dana, been through the grief, and know exactly how hard it is when we just wish they would know what to do with us, when we ourselves, often, don't. {{{hugs}}} I hope the struggle with this becomes easier. You are so wonderful, and from all that you write about your husband, he's very willing to meet you wherever you are at and help you.

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  8. I agree with Missy, offering advice based on what you have learned is not the same as preaching.

    I have offered or suggested to friends who have had a difficult time asking for a spanking to have a concrete symbol to show their husbands. Like a ridiculous statue to put out on the counter. Or to flip around a picture. Of course then they still have to SEE it. LOL. But that is almost equally as difficult to put out or flip, but it is a stepping stone to verbally communicating.
    Barney has struggled many ways the way Duke describes, about whether or not to spank. We always joke about a friend of ours " When in doubt- spank" Of course this isn't true, but 80% of the time here it probably is!
    As far as topping from the bottom- asking for help is a strength not a weakness. Our relationships are equally driven by each of us to succeed and to be harmonious. If we see in ourselves the need for help, really it is our duty to that relationship to express it to our husbands. What they do with that information is still their choice.
    love
    willie

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    1. I believe in the doing the physical shows of needing a spanking too if you can't ask. There can also be a sign or sound you make to warn them as well. :) I believe a lot of men, when coming into this, struggle. They love us, and want to do what is best for us, and really don't want to hurt us or put us in a bad place emotionally. The more I talk to the Duke, the more I learn how unsettling their role can be as they learn it, but I've also been able to console and really comfort him. It's been a great way to give and take. :)

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  9. Thank you for another great post EsMay & Duke, I had been feeling a lot of what you mentioned EsMay about not wanting to top from the bottom by asking & then I also was feeling ashamed and embarrased about needing a spanking that I couldn't ask. Even worse, when he would begin to notice that I was not quite myself and would ask if I needed one I would deny it out of shame all the while inside my head I would be screaming "yes! That is exactly what I need! I need you to take control here!" Talk about sending mixed messages! Well recently we had several long talks about many things but this was one of the things discussed & how I needed to be honest with him always, but since this is a very hard thing for me to ask we came up with a non verbal way for me to ask that I have used once since our talk & it was such a relief to have him spank no questions asked all the while telling me that every thing would be alright & that I could relax because he was in charge. I think that eventually I will be able to ask verbally but until such time we have found what works-and as far as me telling him I don't need one when I do that is now a punishment spankable offence rather than the maintenance type I would get if I admit what I need in the 1st place, so this way I do not send him (m)any mixed messages.
    Love,
    Scarlet ; )

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    1. Scarlet, I think the system that you and your husband have worked out is really great. :) And I do think that having it as a rule is good too, he's trying to help you fight behaviours that are not good for you, and cause you pain because he loves you too much to let you live like that. :) Even if you can never verbally tell him, you're still letting him know you need his help. :)

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  10. Great Post! I have to agree with the above, sharing a positive scenario about what works for you and the Duke is not preaching.

    I for one do not think asking for something you need, to help get in a better place is topping from the bottom at all! Ttwd is based on trust and communication and that goes both ways.

    Men are not mind readers and don't always pick up on how we (women) feel, or need. By conveying your need to him I think you are helping strengthen your relationship!

    ~ Tasha

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    1. Tasha, they definitely are not mind readers, and in all honesty, thank goodness they're not! lol And thank you, I worry so much about being preachy, but think from these comments, I'll have to stop worrying so much. :)

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  11. Hi EsMay, I think this is a great post. We are very close and I am not afraid to ask for a spanking when I need one. I will say though my beloved is pretty in tune with me and I don't often have to, he always seems to know already. He never minds me asking if I need to. Today I am doing my best to avoid a nasty one though. lol.
    love Jan.xx

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    1. Oh, Jan, hope you were able to avoid that nasty spanking. :) Well, if your husband can generally see when you need a spanking, you are a very blessed woman indeed. :) The Duke is growing in this area, and the more I admit where I am at, the more he's learning to notice my body language, and associate the signs with what I need. :) It's a learning process, but I think there will always be times I'll still have to ask, and thankfully, he never pushes me a way when I do. :) {{{hugs}}}

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  12. Thank you for this post, EsMay. Even after all this time with Ward, sometimes asking for what I need, or sometimes saying, I need more with a particular implement, I have those doubts. Still I ask him, that's not me trying to be in control is is? And receiving his assurances, I still have that little doubt. My mind can talk me out of anything, believe me! I'll say it's me offering my submission, it's me asking to feel his dominance, his protection, him cloaking me in his love...but that little voice will niggle.

    I love the way you explained it. "...admit that I'm in a bad place, I'm obeying my rule to always be honest with him. When I tell him I'm spiralling out of control, and tell him I need his help, I'm humbling myself..." And even the little voice said....hmmmm....

    And Duke, when I ask him that question, he says much the same you do - that knowing what I need, and what is in my head helps him to help me.

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    1. Poor little voice, I am glad that we gave it some food for thought. :) I really do believe that you admitting where you are, and what you need, is letting Ward know how to help and lead you. He still has the choice to say no, but you have made yourself open and vulnerable to him to let him know where you are at, and I think that is very submissive. :) {{{hugs}}} I think, from all you share here and what you used to share on your blog, that you have this submission thing down better than you know. :)

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    2. Thank you for your comment June. It is good to know what others are going through in these situations.

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  13. Es May, first...Why would you be afraid to share your wisdom (advice) with us. Isn't that part of what we're all doing here? Learning from each other by sharing what has worked or has been disastrous or asking questions hoping someone WILL share their wisdom. Of course we all do this differently and we all take the tidbits of wisdom we gather from each other and use them in the best way for our own marriage. I love that you and Duke are sharing your story with all of us. Please, please, please don't stop!

    Next...wow that sounds so familiar! It is so hard asking for a spanking and wondering if your trying to take the control. I like that you are able to see it as obeying your rules. It takes the doubt and confusion out of situation when you realize he has told you he wants you to be honest with him. For me, it's obeying the rule to ask for help before I make poor choices. I kind of think this is one of those areas that never gets easy. On the other hand, the constant need to communicate is one of the things I'm finding is spilling into all areas of our marriage and is such a wonderful benefit to this life.

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    1. I have to admit, we find the communication pouring into other areas of our marriage too, and it's beautiful, and lovely, and such a blessing. I think that is great that it is a rule for you to ask for help. We so often are reluctant, feel like a burden, or that they will not want to help us, and the rejection would hurt so. But our husbands love that we need them. And thank you for liking our posts, it still amazes me that we have anything to say for anyone to read, but I am so thankful it touches people. :)

      - Hey everyone, I can't get to the rest of the comments right now, have to head to work, but I will later today, I promise. :)

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  14. EsMay, you described the reasons why you should ask for the Duke helping you so beautifully, that all I can say is ‘WOW’ :) I wish that I could state something that intimate only half as well as you did. This is awesome and I want to thank you for that, just reading what and how you described this moment is incredibly positive. I went jogging today and thought about your post and it made me smile for most of the time in the woods. Your post is definitely awesome!
    What you feel in that moment, that you need his help and can ask is something that shows how much you can trust your husband and I think that you also shared with us just how much you show your vulnerability to him. And it also shows how very intimate this is for you and him.
    I think that this is a very respectful way of asking and not at all meant to be topping from the bottom and obviously the Duke understood it as helpful too, which is great.

    Talking about advice, actually, I think that I have learned more from you about being a good girl and being oneself than from others who are not across the Atlantic ocean, but more like across the street. I think what you do and what I absolutely adore and find endlessly impressive is that you live by example. With this I mean that there are the ups and downs that everybody has and you always work on the problems that exist, so that they disappear or become smaller. I can’t see anything bad in that at all, on the contrary. … WOW :)

    hugs and love

    Nina

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    1. Nina, I honestly don't know what to say, I am deeply humbled and thank you for so many kind words. And it is true, I do trust the Duke very much... but it has taken a while for us to get there in some areas, but it was very worth it. :) So I hope that if anyone doesn't feel there is not that level of trust yet, that that is okay, trust, thankfully, can grow and be earned. :). And only in the last few months have we really been working on my vulnerability, and boy was it hard to really open myself up fully, but as with the trust, so worth it. :)

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  15. Es May and Duke, this was such a great post. In fact, I've gotten so much out of the last few blogs that I think I'm going to ask hubby to read them, especially Duke's part.
    I wish I could ask for a spanking. I need it. Not gonna lie. I can literally feel myself starting to vibrate with anxiety. I'm tired of being in control. Oh, I'll always be in control of some things but I just need to not run everybody's life. It gets tiring. He doesn't seem to want to spank though. I feel it's because he thinks I should be able to handle it all "like an adult." I could be wrong. Frankly I'm afraid to bring it up to him. However, it may be a conversation that is coming soon. Thanks for your encouraging words in this post.

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    1. Wow, Cathy, it means so much to me that everyone has been so supportive of the Duke's thoughts. He didn't feel he had any wisdom to pass on, but I knew that he did, even if all it did was show us the HoH's way of thinking, and make the HoH's not feel so alone in not being perfect. I really hope that you are able to talk to him soon and let him know how you feel. For the Duke, back before we started, I remember how hard it was to find the words to get him to understand, some things took several long chats. I'm here if I can help in any way. {{{hugs}}} EsMay

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  16. Hi EsMay,
    This is a great topic, and I think that opening up lines of communication with a post like this, especially so from the heart AND with Duke's input as well, is amazing. Everything you pointed out it true. It takes a smart and strong woman to realize the need is there in the first place. It takes real humility to willingly admit to another person(who we want to see us in the best light)that we need their help/correction. Outright asking for what you need or letting your man know where you are, is not a command, it is just communication. Your Hoh still has to decide what to do with that information. I think that "bratting" to get a spanking instead (unless it's an agreed upon/accepted practice in your relationship) is manipulation, and that is topping from the bottom. Anytime we do something to force our partner's hand, that's taking control from them. The issue I have with asking, besides humbling myself(that's darn hard!) is that I don't want to be another chore to him. I brought DD to him, and he eventually agreed. And although he is very "Hoh-ey" he is not like a 50 Shades Dom who enjoys my pain. So I hesitate to ask because: I feel that he does so much for me already, who am I to ask for more?
    Thank you so much for the opportunity to read and comment on this subject, and thank you to the duke for your insight into the Hoh psyche!
    Love, River

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    1. I used to feel the same, that the Duke was already doing so much for me by accepting this dynamic, and worried that asking for a spanking would either result in being rejected, or that he would do it, but begrudgingly. Sometime if you feel bold enough, I'd ask him how he feels, his answer might surprise you. :) And I have to agree, even though I know the Duke will always follow through, it can still be hard to humble myself at times. And yes, whenever I go to him, I'm still not in control, because as you said, he now gets to decide what to do with the information I have given him. :)

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  17. EsMay, you have touched on a subject that many of us struggle with and once again you have dealt with it in ah honest and caring manner. You are right, some TiHs don't feel comfortable asking to be spanked. I can't personally put myself in that catagory because my HoH and I communicate better than we do anything else in this journey. I have found it necessary to kneel before him to confess that I need his leadership and strength to help me through a stressful or confusing time. I asked him to spank me and he was willing to take care of my needs. There isn't anything that makes me feel safer, more treasured or cherished than to know he has me when I am in need.

    A spanking that is asked for by the TiH can make the HoH understand the trust she has in him. We put our life in their hands and they lead us with compassion, understanding and love. It is the love in all things that makes us feel the submission that is so necessary for their leadership.

    We are so lucky to be able to live this lifestyle and we are blessed to have bloggers like you who not only embrace this but can present the feelings and thoughts so clearly to help those who either don't understand or who are just learning. I love the new direction of this blog. Dukes Deductions help us to see the HoH's point of view on topics and makes us aware of some of the real issues they face in their attempt to lead us through TTWD. Sometimes we forget they are just people too with fears, concerns and worries that the decisions they make, the very ones that effect the path we travel, may not be perfect. Thank God that none of us need to be perfect. We just need to keep trying and keep trusting. {{{hugs}}} to you and Duke. Ladybrittany

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    1. I am glad that you are liking the new direction we are trying out. :). It really does help us to see the struggles they have too when we hear from them, struggles we might never consider otherwise. Knowing this train of thinking, I know that the times that seem inconsistent are actually the times he's trying to figure out what is best to do. I am glad that are are able to be so open and honest withyour husband, hopefully that will help you avoid some of the pitfalls I fell into. ;)

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  18. This is such a great post EsMay and Duke! I almost asked for one last night...almost, but then I had a horrible feeling of neediness or pride..or something, but I still think it's a good start, and maybe someday I'll be there and ready to ask. I'm so happy and proud of you that you are able to do that, to recognize what you need I think what you said about not asking when you feel like you need a spanking, is going against the rule about being open and honest, I guess I never thought about it like that, so that was a great eye opener :) I love Dukes comments, and it really helps to know what they're going through. They definitely have a tough job, and we need to remember that. It must be really special to be able to read what he's thinking as well!!!

    Hugs!!!!!

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    1. Jennelle, I can't believe now blessed I have been to have us doing this together, and to get a clearer picture in my mind of what he is thinking. It has been great. Yes, I had the same eye opener when these realizations came to me. But, I realized how good for me, especially in the long run, it would be to be able to just be honest and admit where I am to the Duke. It has created a freedom and didn't expect. :) {{{hugs}}} EsMay

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  19. You have so many wonderful comments here I think I will just say thanks to you and Duke. It is hard to ask and seeing the issue from both sides is so helpful. Great post.

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    1. Thank you, Zoe. I am so glad that what we said could be of some help to you. :)

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  20. You know SM and I have talked about this before too. He doesn't see it as topping from the bottom if I ask him. The decision to spank or not is his, but he appreciates when I let him know I need or want one. He is always accommodating and considers why I am asking. Is it guilt? How long and how hard should he spank? What should he use? All those choices are his and even what position I will go in. He makes the decisions I just tell him when there is a need on the rare occasion that he didn't already know it. Thanks as always for sharing this. It is an important topic and I agree that one should not feel badly for asking nor should they feel like they cannot ask when they need to.

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    sara

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    1. I just love how you guys think and look on this. :) You have such a beautiful marriage, and I love hearing about it. :) And it is so true, asking is about getting help, and not about leading. They decide how everything goes once we admit the need. I am so glad to hear about how well this works for you. :) {{{hugs}}}

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  21. Ummm...WOW...what a great post! I need to think on this. I haven't asked for a spanking when I've thought maybe that's what would help. I'll be honest, with hubby in school, he is super busy. And he's even said before that he feels like it's hard to find time for discipline and such with our new DD dynamic, so I'm at a point where I would feel crappy asking for a spanking - like I'm giving him one more thing to do and it might just make him mad at me for asking. I guess I don't know if that's true or not because I haven't tried. However, he only has a few more months of his program, so I'm tempted to just wait until he's done to try this. I do think it would help some days though. I have a tendency to spiral out of control due to feelings of being overwhelmed with everything I need to get done. And this is where I think the connection and spanking might be exactly what I need. I also think, in addition to his busyness, my pride gets in the way of asking for a spanking. I guess it makes me feel embarrassed to admit that I might need that in order to function well that day. Like it makes me think, what's wrong with me. I'm a grown woman. I just need to put my big girl panties on and deal with this myself. I guess it's a hard line of thinking and habit to break when doing things myself was my mantra for the first ten years of our marriage!! But you've given me a lot to mull over and digest. And hearing some of your initial thoughts on it when you were struggling to ask for it let's me know that there are others who can maybe relate to my feelings on the matter. Thank you for such an insightful post. And also thanks to the Duke for posting his viewpoint. That was very insightful as well!

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    1. With all that going on, I can see why you would consider waiting the few months until your husband is done his schooling. I so understand how embarrassing it can be, but I've learned, in a marriage, having big girl panties is not always the healthiest thing for the marriage, even outside of DD. We need to lean on each other so that we all feel needed, and also learn not to be too self sufficient when we actually need help. And you are not alone, whatever you go through in DD, I'm going to guess many others have as well. {{{hugs}}} It's okay to admit where you're at, even if just to yourself. :)

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  22. EsMay and Duke, this is such a great post! Gosh I am not sure what else I can add- you have so many great comments. Thank you for sharing. Another wonderful reminder of how important it is to communicate because it is easy to assume what the other is feeling at times, and therefore miss the boat. You two are doing so great!! Such love shining through.

    Sharing both points of view is really neat. I very much enjoyed the same when June and Ward used to do this. They are missed! Thank you for letting us in to both of your hearts. Many hugs,

    <3 Katie

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    1. Katie, it really is too easy to assume what the other is thinking, and when I do that, I am usually wrong. :( I am glad that you're like the new style of the blog. I'm kind of hoping we keep it that way. :) {{{hugs}}}

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  23. Dear EsMay,

    I feel it's perfectly okay to ask for a spanking. You're trying to fulfill a need, and that's what marriage is all about. I’m sure there are times Duke needs something from you and feels a similar reluctance. We all do, at least from time to time.

    The difficulty is in the asking. I know. It's not easy to make a request for something we want. I certainly know what it's like. Whether it’s a spanking, or something else, the difficulty remains; it’s only a matter of degree, not of kind.

    Duke loves you and is concerned for your welfare. I think that’s very clear. Maybe--and I’m sure you’ve already thought of it--you can talk to Duke to arrange a way for you to ask for what you need while minimizing the reluctance. At the very least, the discussion will bring you closer together through sharing.

    Annapurna

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Please feel free to leave any comments, but I do ask you to be kind. We go into this with eyes wide open after months of prayer, and a peace in our hearts that this is the right choice before God for our marriage. I am open to questions from those who wonder why we made this choice, but I would ask for no personal attacks. Thank you. :)

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